Objective Jerk
Army Veteran Asshole that is learning to love Jesus. I use my MIC / Platform as a form of "Therapy", no schedule, no script, just whatever is floating my boat at the moment.
Objective Jerk
UNPACKING JOE ROGAN'S CONTROVERSIAL INTERVIEW with Dave Smith and Douglas Murray
I share my honest thoughts on a recent Joe Rogan podcast featuring Dave Smith and Douglas Murray, where Murray's aggressive questioning tactics and insistence on "expert" voices fell flat. The episode sparked reflection on what makes a good podcast conversation and why authenticity matters more than credentials.
• Technical difficulties with GarageBand after a computer update erased my podcast settings
• Critique of Douglas Murray's argumentative approach on the Joe Rogan Experience
• Questioning what makes someone an "expert" and why credential worship is problematic
• How the COVID pandemic revealed the limitations of relying solely on "expert" opinions
• Personal reflections on serving in Iraq and questioning the war's justification
• Why Joe Rogan's authentic approach succeeds where more polished political podcasts fail
• Clarification about my dietary habits after a listener misunderstood my previous episode
Let me know what you thought about the podcast! Did you listen to that JRE episode? What did you think about my take? Leave your thoughts in the comments.
Again, thanks for hanging out with me!
Please feel free to comment or send an email to theobjectivejerk@gmail.com
What's going on? It's the Objective Jerk and I'm said jerk, you are listening? Oh, I messed it up already. You're listening to the Objective Jerk where I that's what I need to do. You are listening to the Objective Jerk where I use my microphone and platform as a form of therapy and I am said, jerk, maybe that's what I need to do, something like that. Anyway, what's up? How's everybody doing? I um been, what have I been doing? Um, just been working on normal crap. Um, first off, my my computer updated and like it scrubbed. My garage band or something like all my stuff is like not there, so all my settings that I had before, which I'm constantly messing with, was out the door. So I do a new podcast setting Because I would record a podcast and then I'd save it whenever I had to convert it, export it, whatever, and then whenever I'd open GarageBand, it would just bring up the previous and I would just delete and then record with the existing settings.
Speaker 1:Right, but for some, but it's all. It's like it was a brand new, first time using it and so that sucks. But actually I I just I just did it and did a quick little test. It actually sounds kind of good, so maybe it's it's for the best, so hopefully, I don't know. Problem is, I don't know where it's. Saving this, okay, I think it should be good. No, that's, that's the wrong thing I'm looking at. I don't know where it's. Well, I guess I can pick it when I go to save it anyway. So hopefully that works out.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I was like you know what I'm gonna do a podcast and then I spent like 20 minutes trying to figure out what was going on and I just was like I guess it just re-whatever, I don't know. It's like I just, I don't know it started all over basically. But, like I said, in a little practice that I did, it sounded pretty good. So, but no, I wanted to kind of talk about this podcast that I listened to on the Joe Rogan, so I meant to pull some stuff up so I could reference names and everything. So I listened to this the other day when I was working on my um, um, my tool room, which is like you know where my bikes are at and where I work on my bike and everything. I think I talked about getting the clamp, the stand, so I was kind of setting things up for that and organizing that, and usually when I do that kind of stuff, so I either listen to music or or or or a podcast, um, it just depends Didn't feel like listening to music, so I I just put on, and I don't only listen to Joe Rogan, but for the most part, cause I don't listen to podcasts as much as I used to, but plus, now so much of it's on YouTube and everything, but I mean not Joe Rogan necessarily, but just every podcast that's out there is.
Speaker 1:You know, there's so many different ways that you can watch or listen to, and um, so anyway, so I just opened it up and just started listening to the first um, the first podcast, and it was, yeah, the one with Dave Smith and Douglas Murray, right, which I guess is like everybody's talking about it right now. So I guess maybe I should too, because the Douglas Murray guy was annoying as hell. I don't know if you guys listened to it. So Dave Smith is a comedian and he's been on the Rogan podcast before. I don't think I've ever listened to one that was just him. It's usually he's with other comedians or whatever.
Speaker 1:I've never been much of a fan of him, not because I didn't like anything he said, I just I don't know, I just never have. You know, because of this, though, I kind of I subscribed to his podcast on and because I kind of feel like a kinship towards him. He's a comedian, you know. He's not's not an expert, as we'll get into, but he just has some base logical common sense kind of takes, and I've never listened to one with this Douglas Murray, I don't think. But I just remember being in my tool room, you know, getting stuff going. I was listening but kind of not.
Speaker 1:But then it just immediately just started into the Douglas Murray guy, just you know, just kind of attacking, and I remember thinking like dude, like maybe build a little rapport, kind of get a little relationship going a little bit, you know, and then start going Because you know this stuff was just on his mind. He'd been like practicing it in the mirror, the things he wanted to say or something. Know, I don't know. But before I get into it though, like what's what, what? What is the definition of an expert, do you think? I mean, is an expert an educated person, or is an expert an educated person or is an expert an experienced person? Is it both? You know what I mean, like what? So this Douglas Murray guy was just really hung up on.
Speaker 1:Oh like, he's like pissed off because Joe Rogan doesn't have other people that kind of fall in line with his view of things, you know, and he's like basically saying there's, you know, there's all these people that claim to be experts, but they don't really Most people that I ever like myself. You know, there's all these people that claim to be experts but they don't really most people that I ever like myself. You know, I don't. If there's something that I've experienced more, even something that I'm pretty experienced with, I don't even claim I'm an expert. I I don't claim to be an expert in anything. Um, and I think most people are kind of like that. They're like, hey, I'm not an expert, but this is, and that's just kind of what podcasting is. It's just people just sharing their opinions and everybody's got an opinion right, maybe it's uninformed and, you know, biased or whatever, but everybody's going to share their thoughts or their opinions.
Speaker 1:And this Douglas Murray guy, even though he sounds so eloquent with his British accent but the guy just other than his fancy accent, he just came across as a complete moron, you know. You know he, it's like he tried to. He kept like trying to start a debate. He would ask a question and then when what's his face? I already forgot what's his name, dan Smith, or hold on, I'm trying to look ahead of the thing up here. Dave Smith, you know he would answer them, or whatever. Then he would just be like, well, see, you're not. You know, that's not what I'm saying. That's not like he never could follow through with what he started and nothing he said really made sense, like he'd be like, you know, don't you think we need to have experts talking about it? And they're like well, nobody claims to be an expert. I don't claim to be an expert, isn't it? Yes, but don't you think it's weird? And it's like, what's weird? It's just people talking.
Speaker 1:Just because that's the thing that people like about Joe Rogan's podcast is, he gets experts on there. He gets, you know, actors, normal people, writers, as long as it's just podcasters, people like me that are much more successful at it. You know, just normal people, normal people with normal opinions, and they discuss things, you know, and Joe Rogan, usually he finds somebody that is interesting that he wants to talk to, he'll reach out to them. You know what I mean is interesting that he wants to talk to. He'll reach out to them. You know what I mean. Um, now, I mean it's just like with trump and everything he put.
Speaker 1:You know, harris had a chance to get on there too. He was trying to get both sides, but she didn't want to do it and we talked about that. I mean, we know why, because she's a retard. She wouldn't, she wouldn lasted, you know, 30 minutes. It would have been kind of interesting, though, just to kind of see how it would have went. But yeah, I was pretty certain she wasn't going to go on there. But anyway, this guy just had a bunch of like non-arguments, this Douglas Murray guy. So I don't know anything about him, but I definitely think he's a retard. Now.
Speaker 1:And Dave Smith, I'm, you know, I'll keep an eye out for him a little bit, just because I kind of felt like he had the same temperament, mentality, or you know opinions as I do, but he's, you know, he seemed. You know he's more informed than I am. You know opinions as as I do, but he's, you know, he seemed, you know he's more informed than I am, you know. But that's the thing like. So what makes somebody an expert? Why can't you know? And then, when you, when you, when you say that it's like look at what happened during covid and everything you know. And they kept saying listen to the experts. Here's the experts. Fauci was an expert, look how that happened, look how that played out, look how you know.
Speaker 1:So it's like you can't sit there and like cry, oh, you need to have experts. It's like dude, I've met some doctors who are experts in their field but they're stupid in everyday life. You know what I mean? It's just kind of I don't know. He had no arguments. He tried to start some arguments and they all just fell flat. They made no sense and he would just kind of flip-flop a little. Don't you think it's weird? Isn't it weird? Okay, what do you mean? What's weird? Well, you don't have, and they would sit there and answer him, but it wasn't the answer he wanted and he just kept. He kept asking him okay, okay, but isn't it weird? What, the what are you talking about? You know, like I don't know what this guy, I couldn't even listen to the whole thing. I Well, I mean because I was busy doing some other stuff, so I didn't finish. But man, just from what I heard, it was just like, it was just horrible, like so the I guess the biggest thing Is the war With Gaza, palestine and Israel. I guess he's saying that you know Um the war with Gaza, palestine and Israel. I guess he's saying that you know Rogan doesn't have enough people that are for the war. I guess, like nobody wants.
Speaker 1:I don't understand why it's so like popular to argue for any kind of war In this day and age. We should not be at war. You know what I mean. I get it back in. You know, centuries ago and you had the clans and you had the people that you know, the people that you know the different cultures and coming across on a boat and this and that, and there's all these battles with england and france, and you know like it makes sense and then, but like I mean, world war one and two didn't really make sense. I mean it us getting involved with what Hitler was doing and everything made sense. But I'm just saying war has never made sense, has not made sense in like hundreds of years, like it's all why, I don't know, and the fact that people are just like, let's keep, you know, ukraine and Russia.
Speaker 1:For what? For why? I mean I know why politicians and various people want the war to continue because they're making money. But see, it's not just one thing though with the wars. There's various reasons and whatever. But people like, do you really think that you're going to just defeat russia and russia is going to go away? You know what I mean. It's not going to happen. You can't with the amount of information and technology that everybody has access to except for a few tribes in the Amazon. I guess You're almost retarded that you have to result to having a war. I get there's some minor special operation things going on and this and that, but like full-out war between countries is just like what. I don't know, it's just.
Speaker 1:I mean, look at the. I mean the last thing that happened to America that made sense for any kind of war was 9-11, right. That made sense for any kind of war was 9-11, right, which a lot of people could argue just how organic was 9-11. I don't think our government planned it and executed it, but I do kind of think they knew, they had some idea of it and they kind of allowed it to happen to an extent. You know what I mean. Could be wrong, not an expert, but you know just everything that I've seen, because I mean because Iraq.
Speaker 1:You know, I've said it before you know, I spent two years in Iraq. I didn't go to Afghanistan which you might think seems crazy, because I joined the army after 9-11, but I spent two years in Iraq, like what you know, and I remember. I remember that when it was like coming time and it was like, hey, we're going to go to Iraq. And it was like what, why are we going to Iraq? And it was like, well, I guess maybe a lot of people are going over there. Iraq supports the Taliban this and that, so maybe they're going over, like, well, I guess maybe a lot of people are going over there. Iraq supports the Taliban this and that, so maybe they're going over there as well. You know, that's kind of how I did it in my mind. That's how I what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 1:Made it make sense to me was you know, they got people in Afghanistan and now they're finding out. You know, there's intel that some people that were involved, or whatever, in Iraq too. So we go to Iraq and then they're like, oh, there's weapons of mass destruction and it's all about Saddam. And I was just like what you know, it seemed weird but it was like okay, well, whatever. But then now afterwards it's like okay, well, whatever. But then now afterwards it's like dude, what was that about? You know, it's just like I've told the story about when I got scammed. There were so many little red flags throughout that week. I was like what, that doesn't make sense, what that's weird. Why is this? Huh, I don't know, but I brushed it off, whatever, and then look what happened, you know.
Speaker 1:So it's like it's okay to question things. It's okay to, you know, not fully accept everything that you're told by individuals. You know, I'm not saying don't listen to people. You should listen to everybody, both sides and everything, but you should not, you should question it. You know what I mean. You should just be like okay, just.
Speaker 1:And the fact that, like this dude, this Douglas Murray, was that his name I keep forgetting, you know, like he's just trying to. He's pissed off because none of his, none of the people that he probably agrees with, are on the show, or at least not as many there are. You know, that's the thing it's like Rogan has agrees with are on the show, or at least not as many there are. That's the thing Rogan has. How many episodes has he done? 2,000? Almost 3,000?, you know. And so many people that criticize Rogan don't even actually listen. They listen to clips, they look at the title and they only listen to the ones where he has people that you know they don't agree with or something. So they can criticize and whatever center or even right wing individuals He'll have some left wing, but the thing is is like everybody who's more left that get on his show, they end up destroying themselves. They look foolish, just like this Douglas Murray guy. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:There was this guy and then there was that female who was just like talking all kinds of, but she couldn't even. She didn't even know what the hell, what'd she call her? She was attacking, oh geez, tulsi Gabbard and she was calling her something, a toady or something, and she didn't know exactly what it meant. So she had all these opinions but she didn't know they weren't her own opinions. She was just spreading other people's opinions from people that she agreed with, and that's kind of like a big problem. I think that's the biggest problem is people. They will share opinions of other people who they like or respect without even really thinking about it.
Speaker 1:It's just like, oh, this guy says this, oh yeah, and you know people do that like for Rogan too. Oh yeah, and people do that for Rogan too. So people listen to Rogan. Just anything that Rogan says isased and objective for the most part, that he just you know, and he just he talks about what he knows and he asks questions about what he doesn't and he gives his honest opinion. That's it. That's why it's so popular. People like they still the left and everything they just they don't get it. Oh my gosh, why is he so popular? How come we can't have someone? I mean, look, you have Obama, michelle Obama, doing a podcast. I mean I'm not one to talk, I ain't got no listeners, I got like two. So you know. But Michelle Obama, you know she ain't got shit. She started a podcast nothing, gavin Newsom, nothing.
Speaker 1:Because they're not real, genuine people, you know, and that's the thing is, people are constantly trying to like get at rogan or this and that, but it's like, oh, you don't have enough of these people on. It's like, well, they don't want to go on because when they do, they look like fools, because they don't have an honest, genuine opinion about things. They just have these opinions based off of ideology or, you know, political affiliations or whatever, and then they just go on there and they start talking about it. You know, I think about you know what, if, like, if Rogan invited me, if rogan invited me to go on his podcast, I would, for real, go just to experience to meet him and check out all his stuff there. You know, I mean, go in the, in the uh, the, the tank and do a workout with you know, just to do that? Um, I would want to do it.
Speaker 1:But you know, I think about like what. You know, if he was to ask me, you know, whatever this and how, what would I talk about? And this and that? And to be honest with you, I don't even know what I would. I mean, he would have to, he would have to get it going. I mean there's, you know, he wouldn't want me. I mean, unless he somehow came across a clip of mine. He's like, oh, that guy's funny or something, which I'm not, but you know, I mean it's just because, you know, my son asked me that.
Speaker 1:He's like dude, would you go on Joe Rogan? And at first I was like, yeah, but I was like you know what, though? Then I was like you know what, though? Just everything but the podcast, like the conversation, like I would like to go on Joe Rogan and have it not be aired. You know, just go on there, bullshit with him, experience all that kind of stuff, and just you know. And then, oh, we can't air it because for whatever reason, I'd be like, all right, that's fine, that's cool.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm not trying to get, you know, a bunch of subscribers and stuff because you know, like I, I know, I know that, if I know I'm never going to get to any point like that, but I know if I did I would not like it. I'm happy and content with my audience and my reach and everything. Right now I don't advertise on anything. I'm not trying to really, you know, I'm trying to let it grow organically and I just do my little therapy session, do whatever, and then I post it. Some people listen, some people, most people don't. Some people make comments, you know, some people troll, some people try and sell me marketing, but you know, that's all it is. It's just, you know, for me to just, you know, therapy session.
Speaker 1:And just to touch on my last episode, I don't eat nothing but fast food or junk food. I was referencing the restaurants, the fast food restaurants here, because that's just that's what they have. I was trying to. I had somebody comment like well, if you eat a bunch of shit, you know, quit eating shit, you'll feel better. I said, well, I don't. I don't eat, like you know, mcdonald's and Jollibee and stuff all the time. I'm just, you know. I was trying to explain, like, how things are here and stuff like that. I actually eat fairly decent, except last night I kind of munched on some junk food. But you know, like I don't drink soda, I don't drink alcohol Every once in a great while, well, on both, every once in a great while I'll drink a soda or a beer.
Speaker 1:The food here is basically organic. So it's like I mean, yeah, if I want to eat fast food, there's not much for, you know. And then, even so, they have the two, just McDonald's and the Jollibee, that's it. The other one I guess you could say is fast food, the Chow King, but it's more more subsidence than fast food. You know, it's food, it's just a fast food version. I don't know. See, I'm just trying to explain, but then people, I just had somebody do that comment and I don't know, it's hard. See, I'm just trying to explain, but then people, I just had somebody do that comment and I was just like did I, did I make it seem like that's all I eat, or something? I was just trying to explain the differences between America and here and everything. So anyway, that's it.
Speaker 1:Let me know what you think. Let me know how it sounds. Let me know how it sounds. Did you listen to the podcast JRE podcast? What did you think? What did you think about what I said? Let me know in the comments. All right, thanks for hanging out. God bless, and I'll see you guys next time. All right, bye.
