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WHEN WORDS BECOME TARGETS: Charlie Kirk and Modern Political Violence

Jerk Season 4 Episode 181

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America's political landscape takes another violent turn with the assassination of conservative debater Charlie Kirk, raising profound questions about political violence and our collective response as a divided nation.

• Charlie Kirk, influential 30-year-old conservative voice and founder of Turning Point USA, shot and killed
• Assassination bears similarities to other recent political violence including the Trump assassination attempt
• Discussion of whether this was politically motivated violence or potentially something more orchestrated
• Comparison to historical political assassinations of the 1960s and their impact on American society
• Warning against retaliatory violence that would only further divide and destabilize the country
• Reflection on prioritizing faith over political tribalism during times of national tragedy
• Media coverage disparities between progressive and conservative outlets regarding political violence
• Speculation about timing potentially distracting from other controversial news stories
• Call for Christians to maintain their witness through peaceful response rather than anger

In these troubling times, focus on your relationship with God rather than getting caught in political hatred. Don't let anger drive you to become what they want you to become. Stay the course, maintain faith, and pray for all affected by this tragedy.


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Speaker 1:

You're listening to the Objective Jerk and I'm said jerk, wow, so Charlie Kirk murdered, assassinated. It's crazy, you know. It is almost like the 60s all over again, but it's just, it's flipped. You know what I mean. Try not to say you know what I mean. Try not to say you know what I mean. You have. You know, back then you had the left fighting against the system and you know the wars and this and that, and now it's the complete opposite. You know it's the First of all. So you know I'm not trying to, I'm not a breaking news person or whatever. So which, even if I was, I'd be behind the eight ball, because Is that how you say that this all happened? I just woke up a little bit ago and I stayed up late with the kids and the wife and played video games, watched movies, had a good night. So I slept in a little bit and woke up and just started seeing everything about Charlie Kirk. It's pretty sad. I'm trying not to and I'm succeeding, but I'm not.

Speaker 1:

You know I liked Charlie Kirk. I didn't follow him religiously and watch everything, but I did enjoy the things I did watch of his. I thought he was very inspirational, especially for the younger generation. You know, I think he was doing important work and this assassination just kind of proves that. But you know, I'm shocked, I'm a little sad, but I'm not angry.

Speaker 1:

I've, you know, a little while ago, I mean it's hard for me to not talk about politics, but I have kind of taken politics out of I quit, you know, focusing or worshiping politics. Basically, you know I'm done worshiping politics. Basically I'm done worshiping politics and I'm just worshiping God. That's it, because it doesn't matter who wins which elections and all this stuff. What matters is my relationship with God and that I keep it and I do right by Him. You know what I mean, that's what I'm trying to focus on. So, but can't help but not talk about certain things.

Speaker 1:

And this is pretty, pretty sad and pretty devastating. It's first of all, like, so for me, you know, it's been hours since everything went down. So when it first happened, you know he was still alive or fighting for his life, gosh come on. And so it was still kind of new, and but now he is, he has passed, and they have, they had two individuals one don't know why. There's an older guy they had in custody. They said there's a video of him saying like you know, we don't know who he is or exactly or whatever, what, what his involvement is. But then supposedly they do have the actual guy who was on the roof much like butler, pennsylvania and not much has been released on that guy because they got to scrub everything, they got to get all the social media and all that stuff before they release the name, because when they release the name people are quick to check out their stuff and make connections and stuff, although I did see I was watching something and somebody had posted this which I found kind of interesting. There's not much as far as it's got a name and I'm not going to I don't care about it. So this was posted on Twitter or X. Like yesterday.

Speaker 1:

Individual said Charlie Kirk is coming to my college tomorrow. I really hope someone evaporates him literally. And then right after that he said let's just say something big will happen tomorrow. So somebody knew Gosh. So somebody knew gosh. Leave a like if you like hearing me fuck up loogies, gosh, dude, I sit there, no joke when I'm like, because this is going on, I want to talk about it. Nobody in my family knows who charlie kirk I mean my youngest son was like do you know, I guess he knew who he or he knew of him, you know. But you know I don't have anybody to really talk about it. So that's that's what this guy's for right here. He's my buddy, I just talk to him, he. But so, oh man, I totally forgot what I was talking about. Caught the guy? Oh, the media. Yeah, so somebody knew.

Speaker 1:

And then also you're seeing now there's video of the person on the roof. One of them was just somebody panning over during the commotion and they caught it afterward. They caught that the individual was running on the roof. But there's another video of somebody like oh look, there's somebody on the roof there just saying did you let anybody know? Did you call anybody know? Did you call the campus security, call 911? Hey, I'm here at the university. There's a big crowd. There looks to be somebody laying on the roof, much like Butler, pennsylvania. You might want to check it out.

Speaker 1:

You know, I'm getting really tired of people. I mean, you have a phone, that's what you're using to record it. It's not that hard to call 911. People are more worried about getting views and clicks than doing the right thing. I don't know, that kind of pisses me off.

Speaker 1:

Alright, so you know Charlie Kirk Shot Neck Chest Rifle 200 yards, which is not impossible. I've done it. You know they train you in the military. It's not easy, but it's not really that hard either. I mean, with practice and training you can do it. You know, now, if it's windy or something, make it a little harder. But he was in the prone good, perfect elevation and everything. So, yeah, it's not impossible. I think, if I remember right, it's closer than the butler. That guy was further away, if I remember correctly. But yeah, so here we are.

Speaker 1:

Now there's lots of people that are upset, pissed off, who want to radicalize. Now, radicalize doesn't mean you're going to go out and, like, start making bombs and attacking whatever you know it's I don't know the term or what the definition is, but it just means that you're going to take a more active role in supporting, whatever it is, people on the, all conservatives and all Christians, both and or, because not everybody that's a conservative is a Christian and vice versa. But the big thing is is like not to try and retaliate, not to try and, you know, go on the offensive, because a part of me kind of feels like that was the point of this. Now, could it have been a left-wing nutjob communist. That just doesn't like. Charlie Kirk maybe was humiliated at one of his debates one time or something. Yeah, could have been. But it also could have been another MKUltra type individual.

Speaker 1:

Now you might say like, well, why would the government really care about assassinating Charlie Kirk? Well, why would the government care about assassinating Martin Luther King? I mean, now to look back at it, you could see how important and influential he was At the time. Some people did recognize it, but not everybody. You know what I mean. I'm not saying that Charlie Kirk is at the level of Martin Luther King. They're completely different kind of you know individuals. I'm sorry, man, I don't know what.

Speaker 1:

Before I record my podcast I blow my nose and I'm really trying to clear it out and get everything. But then as soon as I start talking, blow my nose and I'm really trying to clear it out and get everything, but then as soon as I start talking anyway. So, but you get what I'm saying. You know they're not the same, but they're still. Charlie Kirk had a man, immense influence, you know.

Speaker 1:

So if, let's say, the shooter was MKUltra right, which means the government was involved, you know he's an influential type, so they're getting rid of somebody. But I think I'm not saying this is what I believe, but I'm trying to like, think of why I'm more on the assumption that it was just a crazy liberal communist. But I'm just trying to look at, okay, if it's not, then why, why would? And the only thing I can think of is just to kind of get people on the right to start becoming violent and attacking and doing the same thing. Trying to get, trying to radicalize the right to stop using words and this and that and just really going at them in a violent manner to bring up an actual physical civil war or something. I don't know. It's just to kind of Plus that'll bring up all kinds of problems. Because I mean, you know, left we Mean is always trying to make everything the rights so evil, everything they do. But it's like we're not doing anything right now, we're just winning. You know, something they're trying to get. Try and balance out. You know you got all the trans over here shooting everybody. Let's try and get some. You know, maga loving legit maga, people doing violence, maybe that's what it was, maybe that's what it is, you know, because a lot of people love charlie kirk.

Speaker 1:

So it is possible, I think, for people to get pissed off. And now, all of a sudden, at the next alphabet parade or whatever, somebody's going to get shot, I wouldn't be surprised. I hope not Again. Conservatives, christians, do not give in to it. Do not retaliate, do not go on the offensive. We got to stay the course and maintain what we're doing. Don't let them. You know it's crazy. If you were to in the future, or even if you had somebody in the past to look at what's going on, they would be like, oh my gosh, dude, the Democrats are evil. Holy crap, that's crazy. But yeah, we just can't go on the offensive. We just got to keep doing what we're doing. Pray for Charlie's soul, pray for his family, and he's only like 30, 31.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I woke up this morning and, like I said, I slept in a little bit, so, and then I saw Facebook posts. But again, you always have to kind of you know, like I saw something, and it was like, oh no, he was murdered. Like the have to kind of you know, like I saw something and it was like, oh no, he was murdered. Like the left wing is not saying you know, or something, and I'm like what? And then so I scrolled and I saw a couple more, a couple more, a couple more, and I'm like, oh crap, what happened? So I started, you know. So I'm a little late behind it, but, like I said, I'm a little late behind it. But, like I said, this ain't no breaking news, I'm just sharing my thoughts and opinions. Through mucus Gosh, it seemed like especially bad today, so, but you know, it's just, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It's really frustrating. The individual that recorded it and maybe they did, maybe they called somebody, we don't know, you know, but there's nothing on the video that would support that they did. Oh, hey, we should call 911. You know what I mean. Or he didn't say anything, maybe they did call, maybe he had a friend while he was recording call, who knows? But it appears as though they didn't, they just recorded the guy.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's crazy, somebody going to whatever and it. You know, it's much like the train stabbing where nobody helps the girl. I mean, like I said, I don't think people realized it, but even if she was just punched, Nobody goes to kind of, are you okay? And then people are like, well, because if you notice, all the people there are black, so they don't care about this white girl who got hit, punched by this other black dude, and they may be right, maybe they are, but I hope not. I hope they just were oblivious got hit, punched by this other black dude and they may be right, maybe they are, but I hope not. I hope they just were oblivious, didn't realize it. But then you see some other pictures and the only people helping her were white people.

Speaker 1:

It's getting bad. The devil and the liberals are winning as far as that goes. You know the racial tension keeping it alive. It's insane. Anyway, that's okay, I went off. So, and I think that's kind of it, though Charlie Kirk murdered in Utah the governor. Though the governor did you see his conference, his press conference? So much better than the stupid Minnesota, or not Minnesota, but yeah, minnesota, where the Catholic at the school, he's like yeah, this is BS, he was murdered, politically assassinated, stating facts, reminding people that they have the death penalty. So yeah, and then you know, you got everybody showing some love from the right. And then on the left, they, the left, they're trying to be like oh, you know they're not saying this is a travesty, whatever, this and that, but they're not, oh, he got what he deserved. Or you know, they're trying to, you know, be like a little more like Switzerland, so that they don't get attacked as a repercussion as a result of what's going on.

Speaker 1:

Because I'm thinking of a certain guy but I can't think of his name. He looks like he's an annoying, I don't know. He's a rich communist. He looks like the girl on MSNBC or whatever they call it. Now what's her name? Short hair, glasses, I don't know. This dude is just a retarded idiot left-wing communist, and you know he's always. He's always. He's always said, he's always advocated for violence towards the right and this and that and what is his name. But so he's all trying to just be like play it down this and that, oh hey, this you know, but he's not. He's not, he's not saying oh, you know, prayers, oh, this is sad, whatever, but he's. You know he's not celebrating it. Oh, prayers, oh, this is sad, whatever, but he's not celebrating it either. He's trying to keep it cool Because he's kind of almost the equivalent on the left of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1:

Charlie Kirk was way more, you know, way more gooder, a way more gooder speaker than him or I. But yeah, so you could like somebody who's pissed off and wants to retell. Okay, now we're gonna go after somebody left. I could see him being a target, you know. So I can see why he's doing what he's doing.

Speaker 1:

Hassan pike, no, no, yeah, hasan Piker, I think that's it. I don't watch him, I just watch people that do watch him. But yeah, you know, and then so again, we'll see. This is just, and then I haven't watched anything, I've just seen headlines of left-wing media trying to downplay it. Of course, you know, it's like it's just, it's just insane. So I wonder how this is going to. So it's still pretty fresh, not breaking. But you know, I think it happened like eight hours ago.

Speaker 1:

So they caught the, supposedly they caught the guy. We don't know anything. Thank goodness it's in Utah, but because they're, you know, conservative. But you know we'll know if it's MKUltra or if he's just a loony communist when everything is scrubbed and his house is cleaned and you know his silverware is taken and all that stuff. We'll know then. So we'll find out. So right now, well, well, they probably already tried, they're trying to make him into be like a conservative guy and say why would somebody who's conservative go after Charlie Kirk? How does that make sense? You are stupid noise of left wing liberal, libtard liberal tick, communist or MKUltra, whatever MKUltra, whatever MKUltra is called now. But yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 1:

It's a crazy time. It's really kind of sad man, because you know the 60s and everything you would read and hear about from your parents in the history classes. There was, you know, as a kid, you know JFK and Martin Luther King, rfk, all these assassinations and all these crazy things and all these. You know that was like that was then. Man, that wasn't. Now the only thing we had was the Challenger explosion.

Speaker 1:

And then Then it was 9-11, and then January 6th no, I'm joking, january 6th, yeah and then you know assassination on Trump, and then I don't know, it's just I feel bad for the generation now and the kids growing up. Now they're just like, look at the world and just think how hopeless it is and stuff. I hope they got Jesus. I mean, they do have Jesus. Everybody has Jesus. He's right there waiting, he's right next to you. All you gotta do is just grab hold and it, you know, is just grab hold and it, you know, I don't know, but I think, if I mean, I was a Christian when Trump was, you know the assassination attempt, but and they're not the same, but I was pretty angry and I was fired up that day and so I don't know if assassination on Trump was happening, I'd still be pretty upset.

Speaker 1:

But I'm trying to really not let that. You know, just fill my day, fill my life and try not to worry about that stuff. I'm just trying to make sure that I I'm trying to worry that, okay, I do the rosary, I'm reading the Bible and I go to Mass and I try not to say the Lord's name in vain and I try not to, you know, say bad words, words, and I try and be a good example for my kids. That's what I'm trying to worry about, not who or why somebody was shot, but it's hard for young people. So what's going to happen? It's going to happen. What's going to happen to this You're going to get. It's going to help the conservative side a little, because people are going to be like wow, you know, this is, this is the right, this is the correct. You know people are trying to kill you. That's saying something. So I think it's going to pull some people over, maybe people who are on the fence. They're going to come over.

Speaker 1:

Possibly the goal was to get the right to commit some violence towards the left as a response. I hope and pray that that doesn't happen, and you know. And then obviously it was the goal to take out an influential conservative for the younger generation, you know, because he was 30. I mean, he was on South Park, you know. I mean, yeah, it was to dig at him but still didn't seem like it was much anti-whatever. I didn't watch it, I haven't. I never watched South Park, I think I watched. I watched it once 20-something years ago and you know, it's not that I thought it was bad or not funny, but it just, I don't know, it wasn't my thing. So since then it's only been clips and stuff like that I've ever watched.

Speaker 1:

But I don't know what if that was it, what if him being on Maybe that was it Him being on being on, maybe that was it Him being on South Park, and then Charlie Kirk taking and using his animated self, and you know, oh, look at me, I was on, you know. And not being upset, not being offended by it. What if that was the catalyst? What if that was like dude, this guy, I hate this guy. You know what I mean. Nothing makes him mad, nothing. You can't hurt him unless you take him out, and then it'll be kind of interesting. I don't know if it's interesting, but it'll be. You know, to see how that plays out, I don't know. We are in a sad, crazy time. That is for certain.

Speaker 1:

The only thing I can say is I mean, you know JFK was? He was a scumbag. I mean he was a politician, right? So it goes without saying, big time womanizer. I mean he was a politician, right? So it goes without saying, big time womanizer. I mean, on a personal level, he seems like he was a piece of shit, but he seemed like he was against the deep state and that's why he lost or that's why he was assassinated. So if you look at all the stuff going on, then you had all these people who were opposing the deep state.

Speaker 1:

You saw what happened and then now it's, it's back again. You know they tried getting trump and yes, okay, real quick. I keep, I mean, is it bots and people just trolling? Probably, I don't know, maybe not, but they're trying to be like oh, if Trump was shot in the ear, there's no way. It's like he wasn't directly shot in the ear. He wasn't directly hit.

Speaker 1:

It's just the bullet was so close that it split. His ear was so close that it split his ear. You know it's coming at a force so fast that it's just like if you shoot, when you're shooting on the ground, you can see like grass and dirt and everything kind of moving from the bullet. You know, as it's traveling, it makes stuff move and stuff because of the I'm not a physicist bullet, the trajectory you know as it's traveling, it makes stuff move and stuff because of the I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a physicist. Well, I can't say whatever it is, but it's just there's a little force. You know it's just like when a bomb explodes there's that gust of wind that you know that's what it was, that's what split his ear. It's because that bullet was so close that it hit and split his ear.

Speaker 1:

But I don't know, man, I just it's crazy how crazy libtards are. Liberal ticks, liberal lunatics, that's what that is Liberal, a lib tick. It's crazy. But I I don't know. I mean, we'll see. Like I said, we're gonna find out when stuff isn't adding up, we're're going to know MKUltra and when it comes out he's just a loony left liberal tick. I'm thinking he was just a loony left dude, but you never know. We have to wait for more information. That's another thing too. I wasn't going to say anything because I like to wait for more information to come out. But you know, like I said, I I'm not tim pool, I'm not breaking news, I'm just sharing my thoughts and everything. So I don't know. Let me know what you think. You think mk ultra? I think it was just a crazy left wing communist. Do you care? Are you angry? Don't let it anger you. But you know, pray for Charlie Kirk's soul and pray for his loved ones, especially his little girls and his wife. I think he had all girls. I know he had young children. I know that, and let's pray that Nobody Uses this as a reason to go after the left In any kind of violent manner.

Speaker 1:

Please, god, don't let them win, because that's how they're going to win from this, as if, all of a sudden, the right starts attacking the left in a violent way Some corner, you know, running people over, whatever. Don't let it happen. Don't let your anger. You know, win and then letting them win. You're going to let them win. We win by maintaining our cool, continuing what we're doing, which is winning, and winning elections and everything, and praising God, putting Jesus out front and center. Man, if you are a Christian, you need to exclaim it, you need to put it out there. I am a Christian, you need to exclaim it, you need to put it out there. I am a Christian, I'm a proud Christian and hopefully it's Catholic, but if not, you know, still good.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, real quick I was done with the podcast and then I just kind of thought about it. And then I just kind of thought about it, what if this whole thing was to detract or distract people from the Charlotte stabbing? You know, because the media and everybody was so late to the game they didn't want to report on it. And now it's everywhere. I see nothing, but you know posts about black guys stabbing a white girl and black people sitting there not doing anything. You know, just that's all I see. That's all I see. And you see like left wing media trying to downplay whatever.

Speaker 1:

And could this have been a plan to just take all the focus from that and just focus on? Well, here's a white guy that tried to kill another white guy, because whether he killed him or not, it would have been huge news, you know, if he just shot and that was it. Could this be that Now some people will be like dude. That's insane, that's crazy. Why would they go through so much and do this? For that? It's not as crazy as you might think, because the train stabbing is making the whole agenda on the left look really ridiculous and stupid. You know they're trying to be like white people are bad, black people are good. I mean, all people are good and bad, but you know what I mean. Like this is going to kind of cut down on the train stabbing. Could this be for that? You know, like the goal wasn't hey, we're not trying to kill Charlie Kirk, but that's going to create some news that people are going to forget the Charlie, the Charlotte stabbing, the Charlotte train stabbing, but then he happened to actually get hit.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, what do you think? I don't know. Alright, now I gotta edit this in. That's it. Thanks for hanging out. It's a sad day. I hope everybody's doing all right and I'll see you next time. All right, god bless, bye.

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