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WHAT A NETFLIX–WARNER DEAL MEANS FOR FILM: Theaters and physical media.

Jerk Season 4 Episode 200

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We weigh the Netflix–Warner Bros. deal, why theaters won’t die but will shrink, and why physical media still matters when streaming purges the forgettable and the future cult classics. We share a practical release model, vent about bad theater etiquette, and set grounded hopes for DC and Snyder.

• Streaming-first habits over cinema trips
• Case for limited but real theatrical windows
• Risk to physical media and cultural memory
• Dual-cut strategy for theaters and streaming
• Hopes for contained Snyder closures at DC
• Consolidation leading to fewer, sharper releases
• Convenience vs ownership: when to stream or buy
• Theater etiquette and why the experience suffered

Let me know what you think. Are you worried? Do you buy physical copies?


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You are listening to the objective jerk, and I am said jerk. What's up? How's everybody doing? I am here. I'm gonna talk about the Warner Brothers and Netflix and everything. Like, oh my god, movie theaters are over. Now, if you want details and numbers and all that kind of stuff, this ain't the channel. If you just want an opinion that doesn't matter, you're in the right place. What's up? Yeah, I just kind of well for me. I woke up this morning, and yeah, there's like you know, YouTube, some people I follow, some people I don't. You got some people like, woohoo, yay! And some people are like, oh my god, this world is ending, you know. And I don't know. I think because I'm I'm not I don't go to the theaters, I don't care for the theaters anymore. So to me, it's not really a big deal, you know. I have Netflix just because I've always had Netflix. I, you know, I used to get the DVDs in the mail, and as soon as they started streaming some of their films, I signed up for that, and I've been doing it ever since. And so that's like 2010, I want to say. So I, you know, we got it. We're stuck with it. I'm stuck with it. Just like I'm stuck with the stupid Apple computer with its one ear working. I think it's the jack, the input jack, from me plugging and unplugging my my uh headphones and stuff every time. Instead of I need to get like speakers and so I can just disconnect speakers with the with the headphones, but it's too late now. This this this Mac is it's kind of old now, anyway. I don't know if I want to get another one though, man. But it's like what you're it's hard to to you know switch, it's hard to switch sides, you know. But anyway, so a lot of people, some people are you know, were wanting Netflix to buy Warner Brothers, you know, because they were thinking, you know, the Snyderverse, and and basically I think that's kind of it. I think it's the Snyder people, which I consider myself a Snyder person. I guess I don't know. I go I'm a Snyder bro, I guess. I like his stuff. I don't like everything, I don't love it emphatically, you know. But I'm not gonna beat a dead horse, but you know, I like most of his stuff. So I guess yeah, if you had to can you know, if I had to pick a lane, I'd be a Snyder bro. But I mean, I'm definitely not James Gunn. I like the Guardians of the Galaxy films, although I didn't see the third one. But from what I can tell, I haven't well, I haven't watched anything that he's put out that Gunn has done for the for the gosh, WB Warner Brothers. I haven't seen any of it, but from what I can tell, it looks like crap, and I wouldn't want to watch it anyway. So, you know, I'm happy to see him go. Maybe keep him on as like a writer, but not somebody that makes the decisions of having orgies. Um let's see, and then then you got people who are upset because they're thinking like movie theaters are gonna be done because Warner Brothers is such a huge movie studio, they got so many IPs and whatever, and and everything that they release from here on out is not gonna be in the theaters, or you're gonna be able to buy a physical copy. So that part I do worry about a little bit, the physical copy aspect. Because I like having physical copies, I don't like paying subscriptions and watching stuff. Like I hate, I got rid of all my music, my CDs and stuff when I don't even use Amazon anymore, but when Amazon music came out, and I was like, dude, it's got everything. I don't need to, and I just kind of got tired of lugging boxes of CDs and stuff around every time I moved, and you know, it's just it was so but I kind of regret that sort of. I remember when I had that garage sale, man, that's what got bought up was the CDs, and I was like, oh, this is crazy. But I guess they saw the writing on the wall. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh man, I gotta turn the fan off because I got the thing I forgot. Hold on.

SPEAKER_01:

The noise gate sounds better with you know, because it's trying to get rid of the background noises, and then every time I'm talking, you can kind of hear it, and then I don't know, it's just kind of annoying. At least I hear it, I don't know, in my one ear. But so yeah, so I kind of regret that. I have some vinyl, I have a few CDs, I don't, but I'm still, you know, I don't know. I I do want to get I do buy vinyl occasionally, and I buy movies, you know, but anyway, so physical media, you know, people are afraid that like this just not gonna exist anymore, you know. Warner Brothers, Netflix, whatever, is not gonna release, you know, physical because Netflix does all kinds of stuff and none of it, you know, you can buy the physical media because they want you to stream on Netflix, which makes sense. So anyway, so my thought on it is I don't care. I mean movie theaters are they're done already. So this it's just movie theaters are over, I think. As they are now. I think the movie the so the supposedly, you know, Warner Brothers, when they were in discussions for this merger or this buy it, not merger, but the purchase or the sale or whatever, you know, they were wanting to keep certain people were wanting to maintain theatrical releases more than just like a month or a week or whatever, you know what I mean? Or not a month, because they only do it for like a few days or a week or something, and then the physical copies. So I'm kind of thinking, I mean, uh nothing's really been put out, you know, matter-of-factly yet, but I believe that they will still release films in the movie theaters. There's word that Netflix wants to open their own movie theaters, for one. This is what I see happening. Netflix, you know, will still Warner Brothers, it'll still kind of be the same thing, right? You're gonna you're gonna I think not much will change as far as that goes. They're just gonna have a little more creative control, and then when stuff goes to streaming, it's gonna be on Netflix. But I think movie theaters will still get films, and you know, it'll be out for a little bit longer, not quite like it used to be back in the day, but longer than Netflix does now. And then, you know, if you want to watch it, then you got streaming. But I yeah, the only problem is the physical copies, though. That's the problem. So I do, I mean, I am kind of worried about that, but I mean, you know, you just times change, right? I have a lot of movies, not as much as some people, but so I think, you know, and Netflix will release, you know, their films in theaters, and then when they have their own theaters, they'll, you know, that's where if you want to watch a movie on Netflix in the theaters, you gotta go to a Netflix Netflix theater. And maybe that'll encompass you know the Warner Brother brand too. But I think they'll still release stuff to the movie theaters, it just won't be as much, you know. I mean, there's so much crap out there now. I think this could be a good thing, is is it's gonna kind of consolidate a little bit, and you're not gonna have just shitloads of movies out all the time. I think you'll have you know theatrical releases and then stuff that's just streaming, and then that's kind of how you know it'll be. I still want, I think it'd be a good idea to have a theatrical cut in a in a streaming cut, you know. Whatever you make, especially on the Netflix side, you make a film.

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If, you know, I think like the Rebel Moon films as an example.

SPEAKER_01:

The first, you know, PG 13 cut would have been released to theaters, and then the R-rated cut is on, you know, net you stream it on Netflix or whatever, or vice versa, maybe I don't know. But something like that, something to kind of bring people to the theater and still watch it on streaming, you know what I mean? But yeah, the physical media, that's about the only thing that I do kind of worry about as far as that goes. You know, are they gonna still release things? I'm sure they kind of will. I think they will certain things. Because some people just like to have the physical cop. I mean, I have physical copies of movies that I still will watch on Netflix, so you know, it's just I don't know, it's like my own, I don't know. There's a movie I want to watch, or that sounds good, if it's on Netflix, I don't like, oh I I have that movie, I'll just watch it in my Blu-ray. I mean, maybe I will, but not no, I'll just generally I'll just watch it on Netflix, you know. But if there's a movie I want to watch like that Netflix doesn't have, then that's when I bust out the physical copy. So I'm thinking physical copies will be available at the book, but they're probably gonna be expensive though. There won't be like too many. I don't know, it's probably gonna be kind of expensive, it's not gonna be flooded like it is today. And then what was the things I was talking about? So I was like, oh, that's what I foresee. God, this thing's just scratching through that. I think that audio jacket's just screwed. I'm gonna have to stop wearing headphones, I think. Unfortunately, how's that gonna work? I guess I could just leave it plugged in and not have them on. Cause I can't have the microphone and no headphone. Or I maybe, I guess, yeah. But is it gonna mess up the audio or my recording? Only time will tell. Anyway, so I don't know. You know, people are freaking out, but I don't think I mean it's just like, you know, when VHS became a thing and Betamax, and then you know, the HD HD DVD, whatever it was, and Blu-ray, and you know, just things kind of evolve and change, and you know, this, I mean, this is you know, this isn't compared, you know, this compared to, you know, what do you call it? You know, the Blu-ray battle and the HD D DVD or whatever I can't remember what it's called. That's pretty minute compared to this, but I don't know, it's kind of looking like Netflix is gonna be the other Disney, they're just gonna have so much stuff. But Netflix, unlike Disney, Netflix makes more money, obviously. I think they're a little smarter with their, you know, I don't know. But hopefully, I don't, you know, movie theaters I don't think will be gone. There'll always be movie theaters. Like I said, there's always a drive-thru, and maybe you know, not many, and you gotta drive far, you know, they're not on every corner like movie theaters were or still are, but they'll be there. So movie theaters will still be around, and it'll be just it might even kind of revert it back to the way it was in the 70s where there weren't as many movie theaters, so every movie was packed, and there were lines, and you know what I mean? So it might go back to something like that. I mean, this could be the like a kind of a purging, and maybe it kind of fixes some stuff, maybe who knows? Maybe it ruins everything. I don't know. I don't think it will. Like I said, I think it's it'll be fine. The physical media is still kind of up in the air. I'm kind of I am kind of curious to see what how that's gonna go. I hope they do still release films, you know, on physical media. Because like when Justice League Snyder Cut came out on HBO Max, I was like, oh man, I didn't want to get HBO Max. I'm like, no. So I was like, crap, I'm not gonna see it. And then I saw that it was there selling it on you know Blu-ray, and I was like, sweet. So, you know, I got it and I watched it. Now, if that was released on Netflix, would I have bought it?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know. You know?

SPEAKER_01:

I probably just would have watched it and then I mean that's kind of you know if something goes on streaming, that's kind of how I do things now. You know, you used to rent movies, now I don't even want to pay to rent movies. I wait for it to go on streaming, and if it doesn't go on Netflix, I I don't watch it. There's lots of films that I kind of want to watch, but I've never watched because it wasn't on Netflix, and I'm not gonna buy it. I'm not gonna blindly buy movies like I used to. So, but like if I if I watch a movie on Netflix and I'm like, oh man, that's really good. Like Dungeons and Dragons, the thief, the the um, what do you call it? Dungeons and dragons, the the last one that came out, the Honor Among Thieves. I love that movie. It's great. I've watched it, I don't know, quite a few times on Netflix though. But if you know, if I saw it just the one time, I definitely would have bought it. I'll I'll probably buy that someday, but I don't know. I'm just you know, that's how that's how for me, that's kind of how like if I was to have uh if I was to actually watch films and review them, like a channel, that's kind of how I would do my, you know, all this is just either like don't watch, stream it, or buy it, you know. People probably already do that, I'm sure, but that's kind of how I rate if I like a movie or not. You know, if I if I buy it, then that means I really liked it and I'd want to watch it again someday. But yeah, I guess, you know, if stuff's on stuff that's made on Netflix doesn't go away, you know, it's always there. So, you know, sometimes you'll like see a movie. I love that Netflix puts leaving soon on there. So because then like I I never I didn't watch 1917. I kept putting it off, and then by the time I was like, you know, I'm gonna watch it, it wasn't on there. I missed it. And that happens a lot, but stuff that will be made by Netflix will always be there, you know. So although I think they they probably stuff that doesn't get watched, they kind of purge from the server or whatever, because taking up space. That's what I'd like to know. Is like the movies that were purged, so you can't even watch anymore, they just don't even exist. And that's kind of the problem and what some people worry about with the physical media aspect. If it's just on streaming, you know, maybe you know, it's a movie that, you know, like tremors. Think of if we were now movies like Tremors, Tremors like bombed, right? Nobody watched it. It wasn't until years later that people started watching it from being on cable or TV or whatever, and now it's like a cult classic. I love that movie. I remember watching that, you know, I didn't see it in theaters, but I remember when it was on like HBO or something. And but so if that was streaming and nobody watched it and they purge it, then what? That's it, it just disappears, you know. Oh, remember that movie? Yeah, like a couple people watch it, and but then they can't buy it, they can't, you know, the people, the hardcore fans, and that's kind of part of it too. So you get the people that will watch a movie and they they recognize how great it is and they'll buy it, and then they show their friends or whatever, and then word of mouth, and pretty soon it gets popular again. So I don't know, it is kind of a it's kind of a slippery slope, I guess. You know, I mean they gotta figure out something. If you're you know, if you if you're Netflix and and you have streaming, you want people to go and have subscriptions. But like for me, there's nothing that they put out, or I don't know. I mean, there's stuff that I've wanted to get rid of it, but as far as like other streaming services, oh look at we got this, you can only watch it here. I don't care. I'm just I'm not trying to have like 50 million streaming, so it's like you know, I got Netflix. I know they want to bring people to Netflix, but I mean there's nothing wrong with releasing a movie in a theater for you know a month, right? The PG 13 version, or the the this is how they gotta do it, man. Theatrical cut, right? 90 minutes in the theater for a month, then it goes to streaming, it goes on Netflix, the director's cut, and that's where you can watch it. And then after, I don't know, six months, maybe a year, you can get the physical copy, you know. Certain movies, if they do, you know, I don't know, something like that. I think that's how they should do it. That way you still got the theaters, you still got physical copies, and people will still stream, you know what I mean? Like I said, I have I got so many of the movies that are on Netflix, I have the physical copies. But it's like it's just it's convenience. I'll just watch it here, you know, like you know, I'm trying to trying to show like my kids like some of the the classics, and I'll be like, oh man, you know, we need to watch this, but before I you know get my physical copies out and all this kind of crap, I'll look and see if it's on Netflix. If it's on Netflix, we'll just watch on Netflix, you know. So I don't know. I don't think I don't think anything's going away. It's just it's just changing a little bit, you know. But I hope I do hope that Snyder does get to kinda at least I mean, he doesn't need to like create a D C universe that's twenty something films and It's lasting for 15 years. When did it start? 2008, right? So that's 18 years. We've had Marvel films. But I just want him to finish what he started with the Justice League, basically, you know? Another Man of Steel, a Batman film, another Justice League, at least, I think. At least. Another Man of Steel. One Batman, hopefully two, but at least one. And then another Justice League film. At least. I'd be pretty content with that. But that's me, you know. I'm not like a I'm not a huge DC, although Batman, like if I had to pick, I don't know. I mean, as far as like in the Zeitgeist, Batman's my favorite, you know, as far as like movies and everything. But like, if I'm just looking at comics, Punisher is my favorite. But they're kind of similar, you know. I used to I don't know, I used to go back and forth between Punisher and Wolverine. But now like I'm kind of tired of Wolverine, you know, just from all the years. I haven't even seen Deadpool and Wolverine. That's how much I've just I don't know. If it comes to Netflix, which it won't because it's Disney, you know, I'd watch it. But that's the thing. See, it's like there's nothing as much as you know, like Avatar, who who is Avatar with? Oh, I think that's Warner Brothers, right? So Avatar will be on Netflix. So I'll watch the sequel. I have the first one, but I haven't seen the second one, or and I won't watch the third one. I don't it's just I don't know. They need to see, I kind of thought it was just here in the Philippines, but I guess it's kind of in the States too right now, like with the cell phones. But I don't know, people here just don't shut up. They talk like they're in their, you know, like they're just there like to say, like, oh, I went and saw the movie, but they're just bullshitting with their friend, getting on their phone, taking a picture, look at it, and putting on Instagram or whatever. Like, they're not even watching the film, and they're just it's really, really, really fucking annoying. Oh, there's my F-word for the episode. So I just, you know, like the last three times I went to the theaters here, there was somebody that just loud, and what, and so I'm like, um, that's it, I'm done. I'm I'm done. Like, yeah, so it was I watched the Jurassic, the last Jurassic World movie that came out. Sat in the very back in the corner, thinking, like, okay, nobody's gonna want it. And then, of course, right in front of me, there's these two bitches fucking. Oh my gosh. My I had to bite my tongue so many times. I was trying not to cut, you know, because it was my son's birthday and he wanted to watch it and stuff, so I just suffered. But I was like, dude, this is it, no more. And then before that, we saw the Five Nights at Freddy's. Kids wanted to see that, so we went and saw that. And then again, there was just loud people that I think my wife got up and said, Hey, shut up, or I said shut up, and then she said something. Because they were just like having a party there, and it's like, dude. And then what was the other one? I can't remember. I think it was one of the Meg movies. See, all these movies were because my son wants to go, you know, see them, so we'd take them, you know. But he's getting older now, he can go with his friends, thank goodness. So, which kind of sucks, you know, because that was kind of a thing I did with my oldest son. We used to go see the Star Wars films and stuff, and I mean he still likes movies and everything, but I don't know. They can all go. It's just they all need dad. I just, man, I cannot. I don't know. It's just annoying. I'd rather be home and watch. Anyway, that's it. Are you worried? You worried about the buyout, Netflix owning all the double-what what does Warner Brothers have? They got well, DC, obviously. I think a lot of films that what's his face? Christopher Nolan. I think all his movies are Warner Brothers. I mean, there's a lot, dude. Can't think off the top of my head. Should have looked that up. Maybe I'll look that up. No, because this what did I say at the beginning? This ain't about information and facts. It's just opinions. Alright, besides, I'm kind of at my time. So, anyway, let me know what you think. Are you worried? Are you not? Do you buy physical copies? I don't know. Let me know. Alright. Thanks for hanging out. See you next time, and God bless. All right, bye.